Thursday, July 8, 2010

Do People DATE Anymore?

I recently had to have a "Come to Jesus" moment with a guy I'd gone out with a few times.

I'm in a place right now where I'm not looking to settle into an official relationship with someone unless I really believe this man could be "the one".

Gone are the days of having boyfriends just "for fun". The recovery time after falling in love and then breaking up does not get any shorter or easier, for that matter, with age.

I'm over it.

I'm perfectly okay with casually dating around until both of us make a decision that we think we could really be together.

Until I meet THAT man, I ain't claiming anyone else as a "boyfriend".

Soooo anyway, the guy I mentioned took me out a few times and it was cool. He's really nice, smart, funny, the conversations were always decent and we have things in common...like I said, it was cool. But I realized almost immediately that for me, the chemistry wasn't there. Perhaps I should've said something but really, how do you say a thing like that: "Oh, by the by, I don't like you in 'that way'. Please pass the salt." Soooo, I didn't say anything; figuring it'd be obvious that romance was not an option for us. It wasn't that I didn't want to see him anymore, I just didn't want to lead him into thinking that we could go beyond the platonic realm.

I was totally okay with him seeing other women if that's what he wanted to do 'cause I was surely going to see other men if the opportunity presented itself.

When he invited me to come to his house, however, I decided that perhaps we DID need to have that uncomfortable conversation. I really, really thought about his offer and made a decision to tell him that while going to bars, restaurants, etc. was cool, I didn't think we were in the "home visit" place. Before I could tell him this though, he texted me saying, "...I think I should finally take the hints at this point. You just wanna be friends, right?"

*BLANK STARE*

The message irritated me for several reasons: 1) It hadn't even been 24 hours since he'd extended the invitation, 2) I sensed a 'tude in his tone, 3) I felt pressured to start drawing out a relationship map after only 5 or so CASUAL dates and 4) Can you not send me that in a text, homeboy?

Because I was slightly perturbed, my reply reflected my own lil 'tude. This is when we had to have our C2J moment. We went back and forth for awhile, but the conversation ended with me telling him that yes, all I could offer him was friendship and that I completely understood if he chose not to hang out with me anymore.

He said he was fine with that...

I don't know what's going to happen there.

Later that day, my girlfriend and I had a conversation about dating and we both wondered: Where did it go? At my age, people should understand that making someone your official boo after a few good dates is not wise.

I'm all about having options and I'm quick to tell a brother, "Listen, I don't care if you see other women. Just don't lie to me or act shady or stupid because there's no reason to and I will do the same."

A lot of men don't like to hear that though. It's okay for them to explore but when we do it, it is a blow to their egos.

Some people are PRESSED to be in relationships, no matter what. They'd rather be with anybody instead of chilling by themselves or casually dating until someone compatible and/or decent comes their way.

Maybe I will write about that...hmmm...

Crowning someone your "man" or your "woman" should not be something you do hastily. This person is probably going to interact with your family, your friends, and your children, if you have them...don't you want to know a few things about him or her before you throw open the doors to your life and say, "Here is allllll my business! Come on in!"?

I see people changing their relationship status on facebook all of the time. First, you're single, then it's complicated, then you're single, then you're in a relationship, then you're engaged, then it's complicated, then you're single...are you freakin' kidding me? I wish facebook had two options: "Single" or "Married" and THAT IS IT! I should write them a letter...haha. If you are going through all of that angst, it is obvious that you are unsure about the person you are dealing with. Uncertainty is okay but the best way to handle uncertainty is to continue to get to know a person and to continue dating others until you are sure that you want to settle down into an exclusive situation.

Why, after only three dates, do we have to have a conversation about where "we" are going? I still don't know that much about you! "We" ain't going anywhere except to The Cheesecake Factory, which is where "we" are having dinner tonight. Sheesh.

Do people DATE anymore?

I think people often associate serial dating with promiscuity and that's just not the case. I'm not having SEX with anyone and you shouldn't either...sex will complicate a situation that should've remained casual in the first place. You kinda, maybe, sorta liked him, but now that you've slept with him, you feel like you have to make it work, even though the sight of his number coming across your cell makes you wanna vomit...or, more realistically, change your number.

Is it really worth all of that?

I don't understand WHY people put so many expectations on STRANGERS. That is what someone is until you get to know him/her - a stranger. This person isn't here to complete your life, fulfill your dreams, or erase the bad memories of your ex. In fact, this person could be a psycho or in the less extreme case, simply incompatible with you. Get to KNOW someone before you allow her to see where you live, before you bring her around your co-workers and your family and friends. That way if it doesn't work out, the only person who knew that bamma was YOU and since you didn't sleep with her, you can walk away feeling light, ready to date the next one, without all those extra "strings" you decided to attach.

Dating can be exhausting enough as it is without adding a bunch of needless drama.

Dudes have called me "baby" or "boo" after only 1 or 2 dates...really? You sound so simple and immature. And I can't tell if you're just macking (trying to, anyway) or if you really want to claim this, which does NOT belong to you so early in the game.

Go to dinner, a wine tasting, bowling, the movies, museums, listen to live music, go to a game, play mini golf, have a picnic, go to the beach, work out together...there are tons of ways to SIMPLY DATE people and not all of them cost a grip of money, either. These types of experiences will allow you to TALK and GET TO KNOW SOMEONE, to see a person in different environments, and to observe how he or she interacts with others. Learn how to have fun and just "be", instead of placing a bunch of expectations on people you just met.

Hey, take the pressure off even more and...GASP...go Dutch, if it helps.

But don't ask a woman you've known for only one week what color her bra is.

And don't tell a man, on the first date, that you would love to redecorate his place and start pulling paint swatches out of your purse.

You sound L-O-C-O.

And you may not even get another chance with a person when you come out the gate like that.

Ladies, I know we are all about courting, but courting comes after dating, once the decision has been made that he really wants to pursue you. So, no, he doesn't HAVE to pay. I'm always ready to pull out my debit card because a man doesn't OWE me anything just because he asked me out. Dating can get expensive, even when you're only seeing one person. Now, if he offers to pay, great...that's more money in my shoe budget but if he expected me to pay for myself, I certainly wouldn't write him off as broke, or cheap, or rude...there will be plenty of opportunities for that man to pay in the future, if you decide to keep seeing each other. But that's just me...

Maybe there should be a new first date rule: pay for yourself. That way if I want to order the crab cakes, I can get 'em without worrying he will break into a sweat when he sees that they cost $22, which was his budget for the whole dinner...LOL!!!

And guys...stop chasing TAIL all the time. Choose women based on more than just their bra sizes and backsides. We know that you're visual and physical and that's Kool and the Gang, but seriously, that gets OLD and soon you will be the OLD man at the club, looking like a predator while your boys are at home with their wives, being LOVED. Treat a woman like a lady. Be kind and respectful - open doors, pull out chairs, don't CURSE around a woman you don't even know - UGH. UGH. UGH. That is the WORST...Basically, act like you have some sense. Talk. Ask questions and listen to her replies. Try to remember the things she tells you. That's how you get to know a woman. And at the end of the date, don't expect to touch her tonsils with your tongue just because you think she's fine...if she kisses you, that's great, but if she doesn't, so what? Again, y'all are STRANGERS. Calm down.

If you want to see each other again, hook it up. Don't play games. But don't go on ONE good date and decide that this person is going to be the mother or father of your children. And if you have a bad first date, consider giving the person another chance. Sometimes first dates blow.

If you decide not to see each other again, that's alright too. Who cares if he doesn't want to go on another date?Don't stalk him trying to find out why. And do not take it personally - you don't know her and she doesn't know you.

It doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you. People have a right to see/not see whomever they wish.

Just date.

And date.

And date.

And date...

Until you are REALLY ready call someone your "baby." :-)

Because, for real, sistergirl, your friends are talking about you behind your back...every other week you have a new "man" and at 34 years old, that looks insane.

And dude, at 36 years old, bouncing from "official" chick to "official" chick is just lame. If you are doing this, though, have some dignity. Keep it on the low, man. Stop updating your facebook status every 3 weeks: you were in a relationship with Keisha, then you were in a relationship with Jackie, now you are in a relationship with SuzieQ. Your friends have already started placing their bets...

Do you know where you're going to, do you like the things that life is showing you...? Haha.


All about the fun...until I meet the one,
Alonna

19 comments:

  1. I enjoyed reading this...

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  2. So, so true... I have been dating the same man for going on 4 months and we have yet to decide to make it an official relationship. As the weeks go on we learn a little more and we grow a little closer. We just got to calling each other sweet heart and baby! LOL

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  3. Wow Alonna! Two thumbs up, Erbert and Roeper *in my Drake voice*
    I could comment for days on most of your blogs…I have too experienced that “pressured” feeling after only a few dates. I agree that many men and women just don’t date anymore. Ultimately, we all just need to relax, enjoy the moment(s), laugh, converse, and not expect too much during those initial encounters. In other words, JUST LET IT FLOW!
    Well done Alonna as always!

    Vena

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  4. It's a RECESSION! After a couple good dates, it's time to chill in the house and have dinner and a DVD and...... :-)
    Going Dutch and/or taking turns paying will relieve alot of that pressure.
    AND of course, you have to keep in mind that the guy you think is "the one" may just not be that into you. Goes both ways. Knowing all these things....you can have a BALL dating!!!

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  5. Why am I laughing SO hard at this post! I love it... and it really is true. People just don't know how to keep it "easy and breezy" anymore. Everybody doesn't want a boo, and you don't have to sleep with every man/woman you think is attractive. Ppl say they want honesty, and when you give it to them, you're penalized because its not what they wanted to hear. I think dating is a wonderful thing and its fun! And I have no problem with going "DUTCH". Actually sometimes I prefer it just to make sure there are no expectations at the end of the night cuz you put down some dollars. Bamma...I got my own dollars! LOL

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  6. Normally I would agree with everything in this post but right now I have no comment. Sometimes things defy "rules" that are put in place and you just have to roll with it before your ship sails. JMO. Love ya!

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  7. Great post! All to many times women get themselves suckered into dating one guy while he out still running the street. It is best that people weigh their options for awhile and make decisions with their heart as well as their mind, because when it's the ONE they both will be in sync. Until then you should just have fun.

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  8. Thanks for reading everyone!! I'm sprinkling love dust over you all! Lol.
    Ramoan - I did say until BOTH of us decide if we wanna be together.
    Malaika - umm, you KNOW you gon' have to elaborate. On here, on facebook, on text, emal, phone, something! Lol.

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  9. I could not agree with you more! The art of Dating seems to be such a lost practice for so many people. Do you know… I know someone very well who unfortunately is in the process of going through a divorce, and she told me that she and her soon to be ex- husband barely dated! This of course later became problematic in their marriage for two reasons…. 1. They didn’t really take the time in the beginning to get to know one another well enough to realize that they didn’t even like one another and 2. He didn’t date you in the beginning, so you can’t really expect him to date you, or participate in those kinds of activities throughout the course of your marriage! It’s a totally unrealistic expectation.

    People need to understand and accept that DATING needs to be just that. Keep it open and honest (childish games are just ridiculous at this point in our lives), just be real and get to know one another. Have fun with it…determine if this is someone you really want to get to know on another level or if you just made a really kool friend with no romantic interest. If you do decide this is someone you really want to get to know on another level, make sure its mutual and ....t a k e y o u r t i m e!!!!!!! How can you really know and appreciate someone if you have only been out with them a few times? That is nonsense, and not to mention lacks all sense of logic and reason!

    Take time to date and get to know the person before you bring them into your world...it takes time to build a solid foundation through dating. People rush into relationships far too often and the end result sadly is a rushed relationship, a rushed marriage and ultimately a divorce that really could have been avoided....if you knew that person better, chances are you would have picked up on a few things that contributed to the divorce. Relationships around me are failing because of poor financial management, bi-polar tendencies, abusive tendencies, control issues, sexual obsession or the need to be with every female with a pretty smile and a skirt among other things….Whatever the case may be, it all comes back to one point….the time in the beginning should have been spent DATING, and really getting to know that person a lot better. Great post Alonna…I really hope your message hits home for some people.

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  10. Arroya! I love everything that you said. Your friend's situation is exactly why I say that ppl should take their time and get to know someone. I was just telling my friend last night that just b/c you "like" someone it doesn't mean you should be a relationship with him or her and just b/c someone is a "good man" or "good woman" doesn't mean that is the RIGHT man or woman for you. Deciding not to be with someone after a few dates or deciding to demote the relationship to only friendship does not negate that person's goodness. It just means you weren't compatible. And there is nothing wrong with that! It's better to know that early than to bend over backwards trying to make something work that is NOT supposed to work.

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  11. I love the blog and all of the comments on this post. My question is not that people don't "date"; it is that people are always in a rush and people have that fast food mentality. Like I want it now...like right now. Most people want to jump from point A to Z in one month.

    I think it is up to the man or woman to force it to take it slow. If the other party can't get with the program..."on to the next". If I'm not worth taking time for, then we don't need to date.

    As for Ramoan's comment about recession dating...I totally agree, but when you do that, a person may run the risk of being tempted to be intimate or having an uncomfortable moment.

    I really think that is a very delicate balance to date and takes effort.

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  12. Hey, this was well written Alonna, like I said you should be writing for magazines........I agree with some areas and I have a different perspective on some.......but to answer the question..."Do People Date Anymore?" I think that people do......I know alot of people who are dating and getting to know various people and enjoying it...I do think that people need to be honest after a few dates if their goal is a serious relationship and/or marriage. Each person should know what type of relationship is developing so that the investment can either increase, decrease, or remain the same. I think it all depends on the situation Arroya, I know some people who dated for a long time and it didn't work out and people who dated just to court for a short period of time and are still married. I think with relationships it depends on the two people, the chemistry, connection, and values they have...... My friends parents dated for two weeks with escorts and they have been together over 40 years......I know we are in 2010 but historically people did not date for a long time before they got married and it lasted a whole lot longer than what is happening these days. Men/Women have too many options now and have ADHD when it comes to establishing one relationship...Why do that when I can have as many as I want....that is what some people's mentality is while others like myself are like let me date, enjoy myself, don't let people I know that cannot go to the next level get too close....also I don't want to hurt them either from investing too much in me.........Now that I am dating versus when I was focused on marriage I find that it will be hard when it is time to focus on that one because I am having a great time....so yes I think people are still Dating, but less are getting married because they are not focusing on one person....but dating can also be a good way to weed out what doesn't work and what does to strive towards that ultimate relationship and great partnership that a good marriage embraces.

    Lauren E.

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  13. Kyisha and Lauren I thk u both make some really good points!! I once read a Christian article that encouraged Christians to take a less serious approach to dating, to stop looking at every person we meet as potential spouses and to just enjoy getting to knw diff ppl thru dating and having fun. This can help us fig out what we want and what we don't want in a long term partner. It also can help us learn some thgs about ourselves. When I was younger, I wouldn't give a man the time of day if I didn't thk he could be my husband. Now, I'm open to dating a variety of guys even the ones that prob aren't potential relationships. Most ppl have many good qualities even if they aren't "the one". It is great to say "Ok I liked this trait in John and this trait in Mike and this trait in Bob..." You start realizing what you'd like in a person who could potentially be ur serious boo. I really don't want it to seem as though I'm encouraging this forever but I thk ppl need to slow down and stop trying to formalize something so fast just b/c you like someone or don't want to be alone. You're so right Lauren that time frames don't matter if you connect with the right person but today, ppl just want that fast food approach like u said Ky. It's "Let's hurry up and do this" without even knowing what you're getting into. I'm typing from my BB. I hope this makes sense. :-)

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  14. The whole post was excellent.

    I feel compelled, though, to add a particular male point of view on this already great blog.

    I speak from personal experience and observation...

    Frankly, I find it difficult to casually date. I actually advise fellow men to keep it to a minimum. Wait...let me reiterate... I advice CHRISTIAN men who are serious about their walk to keep it under control and limit their one-on-one escapades with women they find attractive. Why on EARTH would I advice such a woman-starved regimen such as this? ...
    I quickly began to reminisce on the days when I could chill with an attractive woman, hit the movies, restaurant, the harbor..wtv... and there was NO pressure at all. We were friends and had no intent on 'getting serious'. However, I have found a MAJOR reason why it was so comfortable; the pressure for a COMMITMENT was either low or non-existent. It was somehow always established that there were no strings attached and whatever happened...happened. Emotional attachment was really the other person's problem. So dating, without the pressure of pending decisions of commitment and fidelity was easy and, thus, common.

    Now that we've grown up (well, some of us), we don't have time or space for "whatever". Now we want to be established. We've seen and experienced our share of drama and head/heartaches; now we want to minimize them as much as possible. Sex? Oh, we still want it...but now we realize that the consequences stretch far beyond STDs and a 'blue line'; not to mention those of us who are devout Christians - we have that guilt and Christ to answer to every time we "slip up". We're hip to so many pitfalls in the 'dating scene' to the point that the very thought of dating a complete stranger discourages us from even asking that new pretty face for her number in the midst of a good conversation at Borders. Some of us would rather date someone we already knew or at least have had mutual friends because it's 'safer' that way. *sigh* Dating is SO SERIOUS now!

    So, my little semi-anti-casual dating regimen is 'meant' to minimize drama, futile emotional attachments and unmet expectations, "one thing led to anothers" during Blockbuster night and so forth. Its not a perfect - or popular system - system, but its worked so far...for the most part at least.

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  15. Hey Anon - Thanks for reading my blog! :-) I don't know if you will be back on here to reply or not but what is that you tell men to do? I'm a little confused. How do they meet women? And do you only encourage seeing one person at a time, even as a single person? I'm intrigued by your p.o.v. You make some good points but can clarify? Thanks.

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  16. Anonymous, you definitely prsesent a point of view I hadn't considered. Good points :)

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  17. ...hey, hey...great blog again, i am so far removed from the dating scene but i can look back at my days of craziness and i can honestly answer from the side of men, because i was considered to be wierd...i could date...that was my rap, i am not looking for a relationship, i do not want a girlfriend...i am single, in college, i am chillin...a lot of woman would listen to that, but didnt hear it...as for men, allowing a woman to see other men...most men would believe that makes them look bad...all because most people talk too much, just chill, find out about a person...nope, not going to happen...most people i have come across, it is all about the come-up...people are looking to link up so fast to double their incomes, double their car notes and double how much house they can afford...so everyone can SEE the things they have, and their rings...that is why, on the Christian side, the divorce rate is the same as non-christians....people are not looking to get to know each other, they just want to know what can you do for me...how you look next to me...how you say yes to everything without question...how i can control your life...etc, etc...people are only looking at the dating or courting scene as how can i add to my stupid thoughts of life and how you better agree with those thoughts...the reason people divorce so quickly is because they never got to know a person, if you really know a person, you would listen more, it would be easy for you to make some sacrifices and please that other person...but since most relationships are self-centered...if you dont agree with me, i am gone...getting to know someone doesnt get an Escalade in my driveway faster...or my big house, or my arrogant attitude when i say "my husband/wife"...that is why people dont date...they dont care to get to know how a person really feels in life...they just want the double...see how we as Christians can pull out certain things to make it fit our situations...that is what people do in dating/courting, they pull out things to make it fit their situation...but we keep seeing the 1st, 2nd and even 3rd divorce...people dont want to take the time to get to know someone, BECAUSE THEY TAKE THE RISK OF BEING EXPOSED...oops, did i say that...yes, most peoples lives are so far from reality, they just want to hurry up and get to the next thing...they date/court and lie, so when they do get married, they divorce because, that is not the person they were dating...and people never deal with themselves and they take those lies and insecurities with them to the next relationship and the next...and try to hide from themselves...so to me dating may work, but until people are real with themselves, no matter how long they date, they are still not getting to know each other...i agree somewhat with dating..but also, be more transparent...not every little thing about you, but answer questions truthfully and not to just make yourself look better...if people were more honest with themselves...i think this world would be so much better...until then, i guess we will see the numbers and statistics that we are seeing...i have seen this first hand, when you are real...your relationship survives...when you are secretive...say bye-bye...because what is done in the dark, always come to the light...date in the light, court in the light...and everything will be alright!!!

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  18. AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!! God has truly graced you with an abundance of wisdom!!! Thanks for sharing!

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  19. LOVE THIS!!! You are so funny too! ""We" ain't going anywhere except to The Cheesecake Factory, which is where "we" are having dinner tonight."

    This is great.

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